2008年11月10日 星期一

An English Blog

There is an English Blog for this movement mainly. Please help to attribute to the English articles and translation work.
http://taiwanstudentmovement2008.blogspot.com/

To people who are in charge of the blog in Taipei, Hsinchu, Taichung, Tainan, and Kaohsiung: Please design and place an "ENGLISH" tag which can be easily seen the official blogs. And please promote this blog which needs everyone to attribute.

Thanks!!

5 則留言:

traverso 提到...

Wonderful to see an English version available for this blog. I believe your appeals are just and worthy, and you have my wholehearted support.

Best wishes for your success!

student 提到...

Vote to your comments!!
Go to web site below:

http://www.polldaddy.com/poll.aspx?p=1093289...

The title is "Can you accept that the public can use violent opinion on public affairs and violent actions in name of freedom and democracy?"

choice:

1.Yes, I love freedom. And I believe that the public can use violent opinions on public affairs and violent actions to make Taiwanese society more free!

2.Yes, I love freedom. And I believe that the public can use limited violence of opinions on public affairs and limited violent actions to make Taiwanese society more free!

3.No. I love freedom. However I can't accept any kinds of violence.

4.No comments.

5. Other:

Haitien 提到...

The title is "Can you accept that the public can use violent opinion on public affairs and violent actions in name of freedom and democracy?"

This is a strawman argument and a grave distortion of the students' demands. Nowhere do the students claim that violence is acceptable, and equating "protest" with "violent protest" is disingenuous, and demonstrates a desire on your part to misrepresent what the students are actually asking for.

student 提到...
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student 提到...

To :Mr. or Miss Haitien(word as hate)

1.You missed lots of things and informations.

2.Strawmen seem to be actuated by the principles of equity and justice.However they do not!

Reasons:

To oppose against violent goverment..Great! To oppose against violent police...Great! However, what about violent republic? What about violent parties? What about violent opinion on public affairs(using by strawmen)? What about other violent action?

Do these strawmen against all these violence??
If your answer is "Yes",I did not see any of it!!

If they don't want violence, all violence should be unacceptable. You can't say that I think these are violence but ignore other violence!? That is not fair. That is not democracy. That is not real freedom.

That is "your freedom". That is "your democracy". That is not everyone's freedom and democracy.
Therefore, they are controlled by "someone" or by "others" who want to earn benefit from this action.

Our demand is:
I don't care who you are, what party you stand for,what government your country is,what kind of police you are...
No body can use "violence". No body love it!!
Therefore,""All kinds of violence"" should be unacceptable.

These student (strawmen) do not against to ""All kinds of violence""!!
That is why so many people against to strawmen!!
Strawmen are not justice!!